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1 Kings 20:30

Then Saul being angry against Jonathan said to him: Thou son of a woman that is the ravisher of a man, do I not know that thou lovest the son of Isai to thy own confusion and to the confusion of thy shameless mother?

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The verse in its languages

Vulgate (Clementine)
Iratus autem Saul adversum Jonathan, dixit ei : Fili mulieris virum ultro rapientis, numquid ignoro quia diligis filium Isai in confusionem tuam, et in confusionem ignominiosæ matris tuæ ?
Septuagint (Swete)
καὶ ἐθυμώθη ὀργῇ Σαοὺλ ἐπὶ Ἰωναθὰν σφόδρα καὶ εἶπεν αὐτῷ Υἱὲ κορασίων αὐτομολούντων, οὐ γὰρ οἶδα ὅτι μέτοχος εἶ σὺ τῷ υἱῷ Ἰεσσαὶ εἰς αἰσχύνην σου καὶ εἰς αἰσχύνην ἀποκαλύψεως μητρός σου;
Hebrew (WLC)
וַיִּֽחַר אַ֤ף שָׁאוּל֙ בִּיה֣וֹנָתָ֔ן וַיֹּ֣אמֶר ל֔וֹ בֶּֽן נַעֲוַ֖ת הַמַּרְדּ֑וּת הֲל֣וֹא יָדַ֗עְתִּי כִּֽי בֹחֵ֤ר אַתָּה֙ לְבֶן יִשַׁ֔י לְבָ֨שְׁתְּךָ֔ וּלְבֹ֖שֶׁת עֶרְוַ֥ת אִמֶּֽךָ

Haydock's commentary

A man. Hebrew, "of an unjust revolt." Thou hast taken part against thy father. (Calmet)

Protestants, "son of the perverse rebellious woman." Septuagint, "of the fugitive, (Haydock) or of those girls who go in quest of men." We must not suppose that Jonathan's mother was really of this description. Saul, in rage, wishes to affront his son, (Calmet) as some frantic parents call their children bastards, not reflecting that the reproach would fall upon themselves.

Isai, as he styles him out of contempt, ver. 27.

Mother. Hebrew, &c., "of thy mother's nakedness or shame." (Menochius)

Instead of a crown, thou must expect ot be reduced to a private station, to the disgrace of my family. (Haydock)

Haydock wrote amid the controversies of his day. The Church teaches that those born into communities separated from her cannot be charged with the sin of separation, and embraces them as brothers (CCC 818).

From Haydock's Catholic Bible Commentary, 1859, in the transcription made by Todd Easton and kept online by John Paul Wohlschied at johnblood.gitlab.io/haydock.

The Fathers on this verse

St John Chrysostom Homilies on First Corinthians, Homily XXXIII

Thus also Jonathan loved David; and hearing his father say, ( 1 Sam. xx. 30 .) “Thou son of damsels that have run away from their homes, thou womanly bred,” he was not ashamed, though the words be full of great reproach. For what he means is this: “Thou son of mean harlots who are mad after men, who run after the passers-by, thou unnerved and effeminate wretch, who hast nothing of a man, but livest to the shame of thyself and the mother who bare thee.” What then? Did he grieve at these things, and hide his face, and turn away from his beloved? Nay, quite the contrary; he displayed his fondness as an ornament. And yet the one was at that time a king, and a king’s son, even Jonathan; the other a fugitive and a wanderer, I mean, David. But not even thus was he ashamed of his friendship. “For love doth not behave itself unseemly. …