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Psalms 72:15

If I said: I will speak thus; behold I should condemn the generation of thy children.

Challoner: If I saidThat is, if I should indulge such thoughts as these.
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The verse in its languages

Vulgate (Clementine)
Si dicebam : Narrabo sic ; ecce nationem filiorum tuorum reprobavi.
Septuagint (Swete)
εἰ ἔλεγον Διηγήσομαι οὕτως, ἰδοὺ τῇ γενεᾷ τῶν υἱῶν σου ἠσυνθέτηκα.
Hebrew (WLC) shown from Psalms 73:15
אִם אָ֭מַרְתִּי אֲסַפְּרָ֥ה כְמ֑וֹ הִנֵּ֤ה ד֭וֹר בָּנֶ֣יךָ בָגָֽדְתִּי

Haydock's commentary

If I said, &c. That is, if I should indulge such thoughts as these. (Challoner)

I should. Hebrew, "the generation of thy children will say, that I have prevaricated." (Pagnin)

Or, "I should offend against the," &c. (Protestants) (Haydock)

I should not be in unison with Abraham. (St. Augustine)

I seem to declare them reprobates, and thy providence unjust. (Calmet)

It was not thus that they thought and acted, when they were under trials; (Haydock) for God chastiseth every son whom he receiveth. (Worthington)

The psalmist begins thus to enter into himself, and to correct his mistake. (Berthier)

From Haydock's Catholic Bible Commentary, 1859, in the transcription made by Todd Easton and kept online by John Paul Wohlschied at johnblood.gitlab.io/haydock.

The Fathers on this verse

St Augustine Expositions on the Book of Psalms, Psalm LXXIII

16. “If I said, I shall declare thus; behold, the generation of Thy sons I have reprobated” ( ver. 15 ): that is, I will teach thus. How wilt thou teach? that there is no knowledge in the Most High, that God doth not know? Wilt thou propound this opinion, that without cause men live justly who do live justly; that a just man hath lost his service, because God doth more show favour to evil men, or else He doth care for no one? Wilt thou tell this, declare this? He doth restrain himself by an authority repressing him. What authority? A man wisheth some time to break out in this sentiment: but he is recalled by the Scriptures directing us alway to live well, saying, that God doth care for things human, that He maketh a distinction between a godly man and an ungodly man. Therefore this man also wishing to put forth this sentiment, doth recollect himself. …

St Jerome The Letters of St. Jerome, To Marcella

1. To-day, about the third hour, just as I was beginning to read with you the seventy-second psalm, the first, that is, of the third book, and to explain that its title belonged partly to the second book and partly to the third, the previous book, I mean, concluding with the words “the prayers of David the son of Jesse are ended,” and the next commencing with the words “a psalm of Asaph”, and just as I had come on the passage in which the righteous man declares: “If I say, I will speak thus; behold I should offend against the generation of thy children,” a verse which is differently rendered in our Latin version: suddenly the news came that our most saintly friend Lea had departed from the body. As was only natural, you turned deadly pale; for there are few persons, if any, who do not burst into tears when the earthen vessel breaks. …

St Jerome The Letters of St. Jerome, To Paula

2. But what is this? I wish to check a mother’s weeping, and I groan myself. I make no secret of my feelings; this entire letter is written in tears. Even Jesus wept for Lazarus because He loved him. But he is a poor comforter who is overcome by his own sighs, and from whose afflicted heart tears are wrung as well as words. Dear Paula, my agony is as great as yours. Jesus knows it, whom Blæsilla now follows; the holy angels know it, whose company she now enjoys. I was her father in the spirit, her foster-father in affection. Sometimes I say: “Let the day perish wherein I was born,” and again, “Woe is me, my mother, that thou hast borne me a man of strife and a man of contention to the whole earth.” I cry: “Righteous art thou, O Lord…yet let me talk with thee of thy judgments. …

St Jerome The Letters of St. Jerome, To Castrutius

1. My reverend son Heraclius the deacon has reported to me that in your eagerness to see me you came as far as Cissa, and that, though a Pannonian and consequently a land animal, you did not quail before the surges of the Adriatic and the dangers of the Ægean and Ionian seas. He tells me that you would have actually accomplished your purpose, had not our brethren with affectionate care held you back. I thank you all the same and regard it as a kindness shewn. For in the case of friends one must accept the will for the deed. Enemies often give us the latter, but only sincere attachment can bring us the former. And now that I am writing to you I beseech you do not regard the bodily affliction which has befallen you as due to sin. …